Residents speak up on issue of Confederate flags in cemetery

Wednesday, September 16, 2020

By Haley Schichtl

CCNNews@cox-internet.com

More Eureka Springs residents voiced their opinions about Confederate flags in the Eureka Springs Cemetery during a cemetery commission meeting Wednesday, Sept. 9.

“They were part of an insurrection to preserve slavery. There’s nothing honorable about it,” said resident Harry Meyer, a member of the Eureka Springs City Council. “The shiny new gravestones they’ve got are also an insult to Americans that died in the rest of the war.”

Meyer said it is unfair that many black people buried in the cemetery don’t even have gravestones, while Confederate veterans have the stones and the flags to commemorate them.

Lindblad and Atwood were also opposed to the use of the flags.

“It is currently used by white supremacist groups and as a symbol of hate,” Lindblad said. “Only people who paid for the gravesite, or the relatives, should decide what is on their graves. This will eliminate the confusion as to who has the right to decide what is to be put on a grave.”

Attwood said she has spoken to several other cemeteries in Arkansas, and none of them allow someone who is not related to people buried to put anything on their grave.

“I think at this time, with our country struggling with racial inequality, the Confederate flag is not a good look,” Attwood said.

Larry Barcley, Terry McClung and Kolt Massie — a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans — were all in favor of keeping the flags out.

“There were blacks in the Southern army, just like there were blacks in the Northern army,” Barcley said. “These people have a right to have that flag on their grave. … It’s not up to the community, and I don’t think it embarrasses the community.”

McClung, a Eureka Springs City Council member, said slavery was not the main issue of the Civil War.

“There were people in the northern states who were just as prejudiced as the people in the southern states,” McClung said. “Most of the people that fought for the south didn’t own slaves. It was their allegiance to their state, and that was it…. Let’s not erase our history. You do that, you might as well dig them up and throw them in the lake.”

Massie said that sees the flags as a way to show pride in his southern heritage.

“Leave the judging to God,” Massie said. “The very first mayor of Eureka Springs, John Carroll, was a Confederate veteran. … I have no trouble helping you with your cause honoring the blacks in the cemetery.”

Commission chair Susan Tharp said she received a phone call from someone in support of the use of flags and an email from someone against them.

The commission will discuss the topic again at its next meeting, at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday, Oct. 14, in the Auditorium.

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  • If only relatives of the deceased can put flags (or anything else) on the graves, then we can’t put flowers on our friends’ graves? That’s what it sounds like. Some people need to work on their control issues.

    -- Posted by Indian Andy on Wed, Sep 16, 2020, at 10:25 PM
  • A city-owned cemetery should be careful to not engage in viewpoint discrimination, lest it wants to get sued, and then lose that lawsuit. SCOTUS does not allow government agencies to engage in viewpoint discrimination.

    -- Posted by EurekaFan on Thu, Sep 17, 2020, at 6:46 AM
  • Wow! Harry Meyers sounds about ready to go dig up the dead... Terry’s point is right on cue! So sickening to hear from Meyers going as far to say, “The shiny new gravestones they’ve got are also an insult to Americans that died in the rest of the war.” What a vile distasteful comment. As a member of a family full of military vets Harry Meyer missed the mark by a mile! Vets Support Vets! It seems the attackers on this issue have a problem with Confederate Soldiers in general not just the flag!

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Thu, Sep 17, 2020, at 11:32 AM
  • Terry McClung, I haven't the faintest idea where you are getting your historical information or if you made that up to fit your own personal narrative, but you are wholly not correct with regard to why The Civil War was fought. The Civil War was fought over the economics of slavery and political control of that system that was central to the conflict. The North was not only fighting to preserve the Union, it was fighting to end slavery. The Southern Confederacy refers to 11 states that renounced their existing agreement with others of the United States in 1860–1861 and attempted to establish a new nation in which the authority of the central government would be strictly limited and the institution of slavery would be protected.

    -- Posted by jpmorganfreeman on Thu, Sep 17, 2020, at 7:37 PM
  • jpmorganfreeman sure slavery had a contribution in the fact that some states left the Union over the issue. Slavery was mentioned in some secession docs but not all states even mention it in session documents. 5 mention slavery. Arkansas is one of those that does not, it states plainly in its secession documents the following. “ Whereas, in addition to the well-founded causes of complaint set forth by this convention, in resolutions adopted on the 11th of March, A.D. 1861, against the sectional party now in power in Washington City, headed by Abraham Lincoln, he has, in the face of resolutions passed by this convention pledging the State of Arkansas to resist to the last extremity any attempt on the part of such power to coerce any State that had seceded from the old Union, proclaimed to the world that war should be waged against such States until they should be compelled to submit to their rule, and large forces to accomplish this have by this same power been called out, and are now being marshaled to carry out this inhuman design; and to longer submit to such rule, or remain in the old Union of the United States, would be disgraceful and ruinous to the State of Arkansas”. This clearly is referencing the threats of president Lincoln calling to raise a 75000 man army to invade Arkansas. Many of the last Southern states left the Union with a similar statement. But to say the Union was fighting to end slavery is laughable. Any scholar knows that the only reason Lincoln wrote the emancipation proclamation was to use it as political leverage to cause more problems inside of the South and keep European nations from entering the war with the Confederacy. He knew if the South could get help from other nations the Union was through. But let’s dig deeper......... If slavery was Lincoln’s concern why didn’t he set them free in the North with the Emancipation Proclamation? Why would Abraham Lincoln allow West Virginia into the Union and allow it to continue to have the institution of slavery? If slavery was the only issue the South had with the North why would they not have stayed? The United States was open to allowing slave states to remain in the Union with the Corwin Amendment that would preserve slavery for as long as the South wanted... Lincoln supported that! The South left anyways! Logically thinking it should a clear choice. Your state is going to be invaded. What do you do? Defend your home! It’s that simple. READ THE STATE DOCUMENTS! Terry’s points have move validity then your comment.

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Thu, Sep 17, 2020, at 9:01 PM
  • The issue here is not to argue why the Civil War was fought. All this bantering back and forth is absurd and beside the point. The real issue in question is that these flags have no business being displayed permanently all year round. Ask yourselves, is there a municipal cemetery in the country that would allow an outside group to come in and place these controversial flags permanently on grave sites? I don't think so. Only in tourist town Eureka Springs. If need be, allow flags to fly only on a holiday, like any other cemetery in the United States.

    -- Posted by spotty on Fri, Sep 18, 2020, at 11:40 AM
  • Spotty, I think it should be obvious now that the group is local. If the families want flags what’s wrong with displaying them year round, if they are properly maintained? There is none! Just that people who are of no relation don’t agree. How ironic. Cemeteries all across this country have flags that fly year round. In a town thats key principles rely on diversity you sure want to shut the door on diversity. Again how ironic. Leave the flag be those men fought under it!

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Fri, Sep 18, 2020, at 12:10 PM
  • All you neo-Confederate characters who want to glorify the old battle flag and use the Eureka Springs cemetery as a blow-horn for your political persuasion, give me a break. You couldn't appear more lost as you try to rationalize your permanent flag displays on graves of people of whom you have no family connection. Shame on you all for mucking up this public cemetery that proudly resides on the National Historic Register.

    -- Posted by jolsonal on Fri, Sep 18, 2020, at 12:28 PM
  • Jolsonal might as well drop the word “neo” which means new... The groups been around sense 1896. I guess by glorification you mean simply putting a flag next to a Veterans grave... That is not glorification... it’s remembrance... You don’t think the group has connections with descendants... How misguided and foolish. As obvious in the article written, the only people making a muck out of anything is the people who wish to remove a flag from a veterans grave. You heard it straight from the mouth of Harry Meyer, “The shiny new gravestones they’ve got are also an insult to Americans that died in the rest of the war.” A city council member openly shows his hate towards families who work with the “group” to get their Confederate ancestors grave markers. How hateful must you be I must ask to stoop that low and attack veterans who served the South during the worst war in American history. As Terry McClung said might as well dig them up and throw them into the lake.... Instead of fighting over something that is so minute. We should be coming together and fighting bigger issues. But that would be to adult like for people who wish to belittle American Vets.

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Fri, Sep 18, 2020, at 12:58 PM
  • Civilwarbuff, you are over simplifying the issue.

    If the families want the flags then there needs to be written documentation. Just some outsider coming in and doing as they please is not proper. It is not obvious that the group is local. How do you know? Diversity is one thing and racial inequality is another. African Americans find the Confederate battle flag offensive because it is tied to the economics of Slavery - FACT!

    -- Posted by spotty on Fri, Sep 18, 2020, at 1:02 PM
  • Spotty, It’s great that you bring permission up. So now the American Legion is now not gonna be able to put flags up for other US Vets because no one is going to take the time to track down every soldiers family awesome.... Thank you for openly thwarting a American tradition of honoring Vets.... It is obvious the group is local it does so much for vets around Carroll County... I should know because I know most the men in the group and they are a very great group of guys. So slavery exist 89 years under the American flag how is that any less offensive... The American flag has flown over slavery the genocide of the Native Americans and even the same ignorant hate groups that carry the Confederate flag. But at the end of the day all those terrible things have nothing to do with the meaning of the flag or the reason it is there. If people in support of the flag openly state they are willing to help out any other group to honor and remember African Americans in the cemetery. That is a automatic call for unity! But you and so many others posting are blinded by your own self hatred that a group chooses to remember Soldiers. I want you to go back and completely re think your logic.

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Fri, Sep 18, 2020, at 1:33 PM
  • Spotty, “Diversity is one thing and racial inequality is another. African Americans find the Confederate battle flag offensive because it is tied to the economics of Slavery”

    I have a honest question how has that flag next to the grave of a Confederate Veteran caused racial inequality? An I must mention I am in full support of racial equality. It makes zero sense to me your logic. “The concept of diversity encompasses acceptance and respect. It means understanding that each individual is unique, and recognizing our individual differences. These can be along the dimensions of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, socio-economic status, age, physical abilities, religious beliefs, political beliefs, or other ideologies.”

    I would definitely say that these Confederate Soldiers and descendants of Confederate Soldiers in general are apart of a diverse crowd. You are shutting them out because you don’t agree with their beliefs. Which is right in the first sentence “encompasses acceptance and respect”. But instead you choose to belittle them. Why am I not surprised... So saddening!

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Fri, Sep 18, 2020, at 2:09 PM
  • Well it looks like civil war buff is schooling the uneducated Harry Marxist Myers and his trolls. It’s obvious they all failed in History among other things life. What miserable lives they have. They even Hate themselves. Educate yourselves. All Veteran Lives Matter!

    -- Posted by Stonewiz1 on Fri, Sep 18, 2020, at 8:07 PM
  • Civilwarbuff, you should take this act on the road. All this blustery, holier than thou attitude - it's great! You could be an actor! Just make sure you get all the historically distorted talking points from the Sons of the Confederate Veterans straight in your head before you go on the stage. And why not take some of your brilliant trolls with you? With your eloquence you could hoodwink more people into believing this "lost cause" theory. Keep it up. Too bad you're using your smarts for something so wrong and devisive. Have a nice day.

    -- Posted by spotty on Sat, Sep 19, 2020, at 11:52 AM
  • I thank you for that kind compliment! I could be, but Instead I’d rather point out the obvious facts to some simpleton who can’t stand the truth or historical facts. You can’t argue with logic and facts because you have no historical knowledge. Other then the typical false accusations pushed and what you have been told, it’s obvious. Just a pity your so blind you can’t see it... Your comments are just rhetoric of the weakest form to call it an argument is a insult to the word. You carry on the voice of a truly miserable person. I feel nothing but sorry for you. Hope you can find a better hobby then belittling veterans.✌️

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Sat, Sep 19, 2020, at 5:47 PM
  • So spotty, again I have a honest question how has that flag next to the grave of a Confederate Veteran caused racial inequality in any fashion? I await your answer.

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Sat, Sep 19, 2020, at 6:38 PM
  • Civilwarbuff - you want an honest answer – here it is. My family has a very strong attachment with Southern life and the Civil War. There were officers and even a doctor in my family who tended to injured soldiers in an old house that was converted into a hospital. A member of my family owns that house and we still have family reunions there (although not this year). We even have our own cemetery where a battle was fought, one of the few battles won by the south. But only on holidays will you see the Confederate flag gracing the monuments in that cemetery – and for good reason. Those men were not defined by those 4 years of the war. Afterwards they tried to move on with their lives, they created businesses and families. They did good deeds for their town. These permanently displayed flags benefit no one - it just reminds people that these men fought against their country, not for, but against. In my opinion it misrepresents their memory. Of course I believe these veterans can be honored for the service they gave but not by a permanent display. That only serves to diminish the reality of their lives before and beyond the Civil War.

    -- Posted by spotty on Sun, Sep 20, 2020, at 9:02 AM
  • That’s a great family story and is very neat. I appreciate you taking the time to tell it. Still didn’t give me a answer to my question but I’m not surprised. I must say they fought for their country and state at the time for various reasons. No historian will refute that. The men and boys of Arkansas did what they felt was right at the time. Some fought for the Union as well but both were very proud later in life as I’m sure you know. They had reunions of the Blue and Gray all across this state. Flags of the Confederacy came out again not as a symbol of defiance but a remembrance of those friends who had left life early. The 1900s reunions were a time of reconciliation between the old vets. They knew they had their differences and got along and accepted them as people should. Two different groups of the blue and the gray all Americans but with two different flags. It’s okay to be different, as a country with so many nationalities in it. We all have different roots and Flags that’s okay. It doesn’t mean we don’t love America first. Flags in a cemetery are not met to benefit you or me. There just a simple gesture of remembrance of a soldier who put his life in the line in the service of his country. These men’s lives are not diminished by a flag. These men’s story are being swept under the rug from the war to post war and you know that. Only people who want to learn will take the time. Harry Meyers comment in this article saying just because Confederate Veterans have headstones it’s a insult to “American veterans”... Is disgusting and vile! It shows this is about more then a flag.... I’m sure you know that.

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Sun, Sep 20, 2020, at 10:03 AM
  • The people here, most especially those drawn to municipal involvement, that are constantly trying to agitate and control the community based on their own feelings and desire to mandate have got to try and find a better way to gain self affirmation. The soldiers in that cemetery, their families and all of the rest of the people in this community are not responsible for your life direction or how you feel about yourselves. Everyone owns their own life decisions. I understand the desire to find a purpose in life and the sudden urge to achieve some level of relevance, but it seems some are always trying to do that by exerting control over or take away things from others under a false moral pretense which often hides selfish interests. That will never gain you respect. We all know a great pastime for some in this community is to embellish autobiographies, claim history they've never lived, work they've never performed, experience they've never acquired, education they've never attained or physical status they've never had all in an effort to try and gain a false level of respect from which to judge and oversee others. The problem with that is that, for many, their actions betray those claims and only serve to cast doubt and dimish the community overall. If you haven't figured it out yet, people take great umbrage when some who have little experience with the concept try to take things others have worked and sacrificed for away no matter how much feigned moral ground to which they try and lay claim. This applies to much more than just veteran issues. When you do try to exert that kind of misguided control, people rebel, don't respect you and don't take you seriously which negates your desire for purpose and simply makes you angrier and more apt to lash out. Stop the cycle. Stop trying to control things which are not rightfully yours to control. Instead, get rid of the bitterness and jealousy. Be positive and do things that benefit everybody and the community. Stop claiming you do things for moral reasons when the "moral" ground on which you stand is often overflowing with hypocrisy. I guarantee that people will begin to take you more seriously and will appreciate you and remember you positively.

    -- Posted by droff6 on Mon, Sep 21, 2020, at 5:54 PM
  • droff6 Sounds like you're doing some serious rambling. Who are you even talking to? Nobody really cares about your pseudo self important hot air brand of wisdom. You're confusing the issue.

    -- Posted by jolsonal on Mon, Sep 21, 2020, at 10:02 PM
  • I will agree it was semi confusing but there were some words of wisdom in the statement. So calm down Jolsonal, your all aggressive for no reason chill. Everyones got something to share, some with value some with no value at all. If it makes someone feel better let them speak their mind. But your bitter attitude is a bigger issue than a flag on a grave. Be kind and courteous not so hateful to someone who chooses to comment.

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Mon, Sep 21, 2020, at 11:19 PM
  • Mic drop and absolutely spot on, droff6. I think you struck a nerve.

    -- Posted by ksrt1950 on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 8:14 AM
  • Civilwarbuff I'm sure your friend droff6 appreciates how you are defending his hot air pseudo intellectual rambling. But as for me, I am just calling the balls and strikes. No bitterness here and no reason to "chill" as you say--but just calling out the scourge of ignorance and bullying that appears to be the style of those who are pushing these permanent flag displays in a public cemetery. By the way, can you name any other municipal or government run cemeteries in Arkansas that allow Confederate Flags to fly permanently, all year round on graves without any sanction by the family members?

    -- Posted by jolsonal on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 12:45 PM
  • I frankly don’t know who droff6 is but the more I read their statement the better it sounds. Your statement is bitter, hateful, and to call me a bully because I support leaving flags on a grave is laughable. You openly attack a dead veteran and the flag he fought under... HOW LOW CAN YA GO! Then to top it all off you can’t defend your arguments with historical fact. So now you are going to pretend you are being bullied...Playing the victim much? I know the truth pill is hard to swallow but take a dose. I most definitely can name multiple... But I will not name any because you will go complain to them too. Sense you have nothing better to do but whine and complain about everything you don’t like. The truth is your a prime example of why we need diversity and common acceptance for everyone. But individuals like yourself want to take away the rights of others. Like a time honored tradition of placing flags on graves....How sad! I pray one day we will be a truly diverse accepting nation and that you will come to a realization that people are different and you can learn to accept it!

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 4:21 PM
  • Blah blah blah just as I thought, you cannot name one because any official government, civic or municipal cemetery in Arkansas does not allow it. And as far attacking dead veterans, you are inventing the truth again, but hey, that is what you are good at.

    -- Posted by jolsonal on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 5:13 PM
  • My comments fall on your deaf ears. “Blah Blah Blah” is something a child says when they are clearly not listening to a parent. You do realize you sound like a spoiled child and we are amused by your behavior? Right? Only a fool will give information to those who wish destroy and erratic American traditions. I have no need to “invent” anything it’s all in the article. Your the one who’s supporting a group that’s has a speaker making statements like “The shiny new gravestones they’ve got are also an insult to Americans that died in the rest of the war.” If you ever read about the years of reconciliation you may understand and the reunions of Blue and Gray. But that’s just a part of the group you backs shining historical ignorance. Keep playing checkers because I’m playing chess!

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 5:58 PM
  • Harry Myers or anybody else has nothing to do with my own reflections on this topic just to clarify. I am not part of any group, but just a concerned Eureka Spring resident who has many close friends and a number of veteran friends buried in that cemetery. But I am still waiting for your reply to my question. but I suspect there isn't one.

    -- Posted by jolsonal on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 6:18 PM
  • I’m not going to give away the golden goose to appease you. Do your own research in these smaller communities! I already have seen your intentions and bias views in the comments and will not help someone who has bad intentions. Which you clearly have. My big question is if you don’t align with Harry Meyers comments. What do you believe is right for the flags?

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 6:41 PM
  • Yes, I have done research and found that not one government, civic or municipally run cemetery in the State of Arkansas allows the permanent display of these flags on graves. As far as the smaller rural communities go, it may be a different story, but these are privately owned and operated.

    -- Posted by jolsonal on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 7:09 PM
  • Municipal Cemeteries are in the hundreds in our state.... So I’m sure you didn’t get them all and I know for a fact I can name a couple right off of my head. To know your wrong or just haven’t found ones that do allow flags. But again my question is what will satisfy your problem with the flags?

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 7:29 PM
  • No more back and forth this is it. It's evident you can't answer my simple question.

    -- Posted by jolsonal on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 7:35 PM
  • No need to answer if you think your right what’s it matter. Why should I help you to ignite fires else where. That’s my point I know what’s true you think you know what’s true. It’s a mute question.

    My question is what will satisfy your problem with the flags? “Concerned Citizen”....

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 7:49 PM
  • Even Camp Nelson famous Confederate Cemetery in Cabot, Arkansas, one of only a few all Confederate cemeteries in the State, only flies the Confederate Flag during holiday periods, as does the renown Confederate cemetery in Fayetteville. And you want it to fly in Eureka Springs permanently? What in God's name gives you the right? Where are your heaven-sent credentials to justify this action?

    -- Posted by jolsonal on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 10:28 PM
  • Continue to lie to yourself they fly a National Flag year round on the giant flag pole in both those cemeteries. I personally have performed memorial services in both.... They have no need to decorate individual graves because they have a flag pole with a Confederate national flag already up. What gives you a right to tell people how they honor a deceased Veteran? But here we are! Don’t curse at God, he has nothing to do with this. I hope you know your rhetoric and hate spewing is vile....No one in this world has ever needed “credentials” to honor a soldier. As a descendant of Veterans from every American war this nation ever participated in. I say their blood and sacrifice are my credentials!

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Tue, Sep 22, 2020, at 11:05 PM
  • No flags on the graves at those Confederate Cemeteries, yet you feel free to exert your will in Eureka Springs and oversee these permanent gravesite displays. Telling me, "don't curse at God?" You are a supreme melomaniac mister trying to charm and rationalize your way through life. I suppose some people even fall for it.

    -- Posted by jolsonal on Wed, Sep 23, 2020, at 12:03 AM
  • Jolsonal, You can’t think clearly because your so mad about a flag. You have lost any common sense reasoning you possibly had. You are in a state of absolute delusion! Theres reasons they don’t have flags on the graves there “permanently”. The Confederate flag is in the center of both cemeteries. Its easy to maintain and they only have to deal with one flag instead of individuals having to maintain hundreds to thousands of individual grave flags. Which would be near to impossible. In those Cemeteries alone the expense of flags would be in the thousands which is why the Confederate National or battle flag is on a flag pole IN THE CENTER OF THE CEMETERY! It’s kind of amazing when you know the facts. Your comments attacking my character are uncalled for and show how low you will go but that’s irrelevant. If you want to curse God and make yourself look like a fool that is up to you. I just prefer to have a discussion with someone who acts like an adult... Instead of a two year old who occasionally uses big words to sling insults.

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Wed, Sep 23, 2020, at 9:01 AM
  • You know how they say: “ if you didn’t vote, you can’t complain“? Same is true for this flag discussion; if you didn’t serve, or didn’t have kids or other close family members who served, you don‘t have the right to open your mouth about Veterans, flags or anything! When it comes to serving, ALL Veterans have earned the right to THEIR own flag! It is NOT a matter of opinion...it is a matter of EARNING that right!! And guess what? Dear old Harry Meyer NEVER served even tho he’s from the Viet Nam generation. Nor have his kids! As a member of a family who has served in the Corp since its inception (11 generations worth of service!!), I say earn it or zip it!!!

    -- Posted by frogg13 on Wed, Sep 23, 2020, at 9:58 PM
  • There are many people who say, "Geez, those people in the South are still fighting the Civil War," and boy is that true on this thread. You can spin and argue and cry all you want, but the Civil War is over. You can deny all you want, but the fact is that it was fought over the economics of slavery. It's time to move on. You lost. Spotty is the guy using higher level thinking skills in this discussion: “Diversity is one thing and racial inequality is another. African Americans find the Confederate battle flag offensive because it is tied to the economics of Slavery.” Perhaps empathy for African Americans and their thoughts on the subject are needed here.

    -- Posted by jpmorganfreeman on Thu, Sep 24, 2020, at 3:20 PM
  • Jpmorganfree, Its great that the wars over, now let people honor the dead in peace! Quit trying to politicize something that is not political! All people want is to be able to honor a Confederate soldier. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean you have to attack the rights of relatives and veterans groups who want to remember those soldiers. GO FIGHT A REAL ISSUE! World hunger, Covid 19, Preserving endangered species, Child Sex trafficking, feeding the homeless, or anything of value! But leave a simple gesture of remembrance of a Veteran alone!

    -- Posted by Civilwarbuff on Thu, Sep 24, 2020, at 4:26 PM
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